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Specifically, the Dems announced on a conference call with reporters Thursday that they were filing a complaint with the state Government Accountability Board, which oversees elections in the state, and also forwarding a copy to the Internal Revenue Service at the federal level. The complaint involves statements that Koch made to a newspaper — and his organization’s official non-profit, non-partisan status.
Wisconsin Dems File Complaint With State Against David Koch ~~~ Billionaires Trying To BUY Our Elections
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When shown a copy of the Dems' complaint and asked for comment, AFP spokesman Levi Russell told TPM:
"This complaint has no merit whatsoever and will be thrown out as any frivolous complaint should be. With no legal ground to stand on, the Democratic Party of Wisconsin is resorting to intimidation tactics and threats against Wisconsin television stations, in an attempt to stifle free speech and halt the educational efforts of 'It's Working Wisconsin.' Complaints of this type are a desperate tactic by a power-hungry political party that has found themselves on the wrong side of the issue."
This man must be being hysterically ironic. Power hungry? "It's Working Wisconsin?" Desperate? ROTFLMAO!!!
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Another graduate of the Santorum School of Projection, with is an annex of Orwell Double-Talk U.
- 14 votes
Analyze the enemy, analyze the situation and then project all the bad stuff of your individual and situation on your the enemy. They are in a parallel but unreal politics.
- 14 votes
Exactly. Claim you are seeking to save the people from what you fully intend to do to them.
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They seem to be counting on the voters illeducation or should I say stupidity?
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So when is Fox going to do the big American Heroes segment on this noble patriot? Or are they saving him for the upcoming brokered convention?
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Hey I like it ... Lets investigate all the 501(c)(3) 's .....
Democrat's are building some really pretty Glass Houses...
Lets start with anyone that got even 1 penny from the Democrat equivalent of the Koch Brothers George Soros and all his organization... Foundations and affiliates...
This could be very enlightening for everyone...
Lets pull back the curtains of all to see what the Koch Brothers are doing and what Soros and his friends are doing...
Let the American people see ALL OF IT..Both sides !!!
I am all for it ...EXPOSE THE KOCH BROTHERS ...AND GEORGE SOROS and FRIENDS!!!!
But one without the other is partisan politics not a search for the truth.... Just selective truths ! Partial truths !!!
I'll take real honest truth that exposes both sides.... Let them both live in GLASS HOUSES!
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Hey I like it ... Lets investigate all the 501(c)(3) 's .....
We've had this conversation before Jim. Sure let's do it and be prepared to see a lot of Faith Based Organizations shut down too. As we start to investigate the Billions in government grants that went to FBOs. And while we are at it we can look into some of these shady defense deals and where some of the Iraq oil money went also. I think drawing back the curtain as you said would be good for the country. If you're guilty so be it. I think we are ready for a reckoning. Who has more to hide?
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Corporatist Koch is the puppet master of the GOP, money talks, which is the reason for attacks on workers rights, and attacks on environmental standards that protect our air and water from further industry pollution. Koch is buying the election, and will be everybody's "boss" unless people wake up, turn off FOX Corporate Interests Central, and vote to defend their rights. Obama 2012.
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Glo @ 1.9
And George Soros is what, the kindly, impecunious Democrat uncle?
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glo25420 - and unions are the puppetmaster for the dems. Goes both ways and neither is right.
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If I was from Wisconsin, I would be cheering on the job your Governor is doing. Looks like he is getting your fiscal house in order and every state should be doing the same, since Federal funding to states will be going nowhere but down with the massive deficit Washington will have to deal with.
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ghost67,
Sorry fella, your "goes both ways" analogy is @!$%#ed up.
Unions PROTECT workers rights, hours, safety, etc. and is hardly the puppetmaster republicans CLEARLY display for only the wealthy to the detriment of the Ametican people.
You crack me up with that nonsensical statement.
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Unions PROTECT workers rights, hours, safety, etc. and is hardly the puppetmaster republicans CLEARLY display for only the wealthy to the detriment of the Ametican people.
Yea sure by buying influence...
"We spent a fortune to elect Barack Obama -- $60.7 million to be exact -- and we're proud of it," boasted Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, to the Las Vegas Sun this week.
The best president a Union can buy... A Union with 2 million members gave $60.7 million to elect a president! For that you think they didn't expect something?
Remember when he said this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxVNuM7-ec4
The SEIU scored not one but two Cabinet appointees: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis. The SEIU pitched in with maximum donations to Solis' first congressional campaign and lent her nearly 300 canvassers and ground troops. "I wouldn't be here, were it not for my friends in the labor movement," she gushed. Indeed, over four terms in Congress, Solis has pocketed more than $900,000 in union campaign contributions.
Same article as above...
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Jim44,
Yea sure by buying influence...
Nonsensical.
Equivocation gets you notta nowhere.
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Nonsensical.
LOL Yea right..... $60.7 million and they wanted nothing in return... Yet got to of its members Cabinet positions and Stern over 20 visits to the White House...
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Jim44 @ 1.14 and 1.16
Rest assured, if the dreaded Koch Brothers had given $60.7 million to Repubs in one campaign cycle, Eric Holder and his henchmen would already be looking for ways to outfit them for orange jump suits.
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Please prove where the seiu gave 60.7 million to a candidate, or a party in one election cycle. More rwnj bs .
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Topcat @ 1.18
Cast thine eyes up to post 1.16 and avail thyself of the links contained therein.
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It's hard to believe there are actually people who would rather see greedy corporatists make an extra buck on top of their billions by stealing American rights and buying our elections. Non millionaires should be working to protect their own God given rights instead of handing them over to power grubbing politicians and their corporate handlers. FOX Corporate Propaganda and BS Central sure has been successful in turning non readers into corporate zombies. George Soro's is the right wings old standby, the only source of contributions they can name, while right wing billionaires and corporatists pour millions and millions into the coffers of the worst slate of GOP candidates right wing extremists in modern history. At least these greedy corporatists have been obvious about spending money to protect their largess, but what do these poor and middle class FOX addicts hope to get out of it? Corporate lobbyist Dick Armey must be laughing all the way to the bank since he's been able to get the very people who are being duped, and stolen from, to do his job for him.
Do you really want Santorum spending his time dictating what you do in the bedroom instead of addressing the economic problems of America? Can't you make your own religious and personal family decisions? Or "spend your tax dollars on a moon colony" Newt, a guy who can't even be trusted by his own family and is hated by everyone who ever worked with him? Or maybe you like crazy old Uncle Ron, the perenial candidate who seems amazed that anyone is listening. Or Mitt, who seems to have no convictions of any kind, and will say anything to get elected.
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First of all Mr. Soros has been disappointed with President Obama. So far he has not been a major donor this year so far. Click here.
The reason the GOP has put up this slate of possible candidates is that they think President Obama will win. The big lights on the right are waiting until 2016. The GOP last four this year are expendable as were McCain/Palin in 2008.
At present FOX and the GOP candidates are busy roiling the far rights emotions of fear and anger. Those two emotions block reason and consideration. Hence, we have this political pandemonium. It will be horrible to watch but maybe it will clear the psychogenic environment of the present and lead to a more constructive 2016.
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Amazing how many 'viners above castigate unions for representing millions of their members, but swoon and kiss butt of rich corporatists !!
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You remember that quote, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you?" Well within many on the religious far right is a kingdom of anger, fear and judgement. I can't help but think they are like what's "within" them.
Instead of following the wisdom they claim by faith, they act out destruction, smugness and contumely. [That last word is in their "Bible."] They feel they are the bearers of "god's" truth.
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Sorry Steve3003, but to use your own words,
Sorry fella, your analogy is @!$%#ed up.
"Unions PROTECT workers rights, hours, safety, etc." You can use the words any way you like but in the end, it is what it is. Large corporations may pay tons of cash to support, buy, lobby or as it was stated earlier be the puppet-master of Republicans and I will not argue that point. Now in all fairness let's call it like it is, Unions, support, buy, lobby or is the puppet-master for the democratic party. And how is this done? I'm sure I don't need to tell you it is through large sums of money right. Don't misunderstand me, I do not think either side is right in allowing the fate of our government and political system to be influenced by large corporations with cash rivers or the unions deep pockets.
The decisions made by both parties are influenced by who has the biggest piggy bank and not necessarily what is in the best interest of the American people and we are left to deal with the consequences and live with it. The entire political system of both parties is flawed, tainted and in need of a house cleaning from top to bottom and room to room. The government of this nation needs to be in the government business and not the auto, insurance, housing or banking business.
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Tate also later added: “If we don’t consistently fight back as more billionaires try to buy our elections, this will become a matter of fact thing. and I’m a little disappointed that all of you in the media are just shrugging your shoulders and accepting this.”
I had come to accept political corruption as normal. Indeed, I thought it so normal that I could not see corruption for what it is; I had convinced myself that it was OK to bribe Congress and to own the Presidency. It is NOT normal, not is a functioning democracy, it's not. Is our democracy functioning?
I have my doubts.
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#2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:51 PM ESTLast night on the Colbert I watched Nancy Pelosi state the under Citizens United we are becoming a plutocracy. Basically if the uber-rich give give one to 100 million dollars to a candidate then why bother with an election? Just ask them who they want in the House, the Senate and the White House and save the money of an election.
Remember these are the very ones who are pissing and moaning about a tax increase. What a world.
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kim me, I don't like to reference links because so few read them. But still this is a very important one having to do with manipulating the energy market in the Northeast notably Pennsylvania. A market in which the Kochs are important and possibly a Fascist move to effect the election. If you don't want to read the whole article I have a comment elsewhere on the Vine. Click here.
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Nancy Pelosi state the under Citizens United we are becoming a plutocracy.
Says a multi-millionaire....pot, meet kettle.
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LOL! In a shortened version this is the Korean version. "A dog covered with @!$%# mocks the dog covered in mud."
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jade-log
Was that before she did her daily insider trading that she making Millions off? Or after?
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How much money did Reps Grimm and Joe Walsh make this year? Oh and then there's Scott Brown. Let's face it Washington is a cesspool and it's flooding across the land.
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How about we get ALL of this money out of politics? No Koch money, no corporate money, no union money, no lobbying money. Public financing and a very short campaign season. Otherwise we can kiss this country goodbye. May as well just hand it over to the plutocrats.
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I already signed Dylan Rattigan's petition to pass a Constitutional amendment to "get the money ut" and overturn Citizens United. Click here.
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I would hope it would go to the Supreme Court then they could reverse their decission. We get bombarded everyday with ads put on by the Kochs. they are going to lose, they are going to lose. they are going to lose. recall scottie baby walker
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#3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:40 PM ESTTheir corruption stinks to high heaven. They live in the novels Atlas Shrugged and 1984 but want to take us back 1884.
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I would hope it would go to the Supreme Court then they could reverse their decission.
Of course you realize if Citizens United decision gets reversed, then Unions would also be precluded from 'free speech."
Ooops.
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Will there be any unions left in Republican Governors' states. If they keep Citizens United we will have become a plutocracy. Unions will become irrelevant.
Ooops.
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Jade,
The Citizens United decision helps codify the Unions' ability to speak with one voice. It helps all "corporate entities" equally.
Regards,
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Thank you for the clarification. To be honest I'm not sure what the effect boundless wealth will have on 2012. We'll just have to see.
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We saw what it did in 2010. Millions of dollars poured into local elections, remember the bullseyes? We had a state senator, a teabagger, who only lasted 6 months in office, but voted for that union stripping bill of the GOP that was overturned by referendum. When he had to deal with the constituency over it at home, he just quit and took a job with a gas company. Hard to say what other legislation was passed while he was in there, but he was able to land a big deal for himself. Americans better start paying attention to what is going on. Obama is being used as the scapegoat for all the ills of the country, by the corrupt and self-serving at all levels of government.
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Of course the decision helps both unions and billionaires, but to think that puts them all on an even playing field is ridiculous. It would be like saying it's fair for the Yankees to play against a T-ball team. What - both teams get three swings - it's fair!
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It's beyond me but what are the Uber-rich's motives? More money and power? Gluttony? That's just sick. At least unions help some of the workers.
At the very least don't buy Koch's Bounty Paper Towels.
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None of the block donations from Corporate or Union's members or stockholders is free speech. The Supreme Court is wrong.
Both problems need fixing. I was in the Teamsters back in the 50s and quit my job rather than have them rule so much of my life. I think they deserve some compensation for doing the bargaining for our benefit but all the rest is none of the union's business. In the same way, corporations should not be donating as a block for their stockholders. The stockholders should do the voting without a collective donation that does not necessarilly represent all of them.
Let me include the evil of district gerrymandering as an additional evil that insures the incumbent almost never loses.
I almost forgot the voter ID move by the Right to keep people that might have different views from voting.
The selection system needs fixing in the worst way
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They keep claiming to be Constitutional literalists and true Christians but
they are trying to turn the nation into a plutocratic theocrazy.
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What normal ....average .....Americans use the terms ...
they are trying to turn the nation into a plutocratic theocrazy.
I mean really, and who even believes that stuff? When Christians see the liberals say this, we just laugh and shake our heads and know that Yep they don't really have a clue what we want... Go the other direction!
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Well you know we the elite like Rick Santorum
He obtained an undergraduate degree from Pennsylvania State University, an M.B.A. from the University of Pittsburgh, and a law degree degree from the Dickinson School of Law. Santorum worked as an attorney at Kirkpatrick & Lockhart. He married Karen Garver in 1990 and they are the parents of eight children, one of whom died shortly after birth. Santorum was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.
can't keep up our masks without using words learned high school.
By the way because for 40 years I taught in private schools here and abroad I live in shocking poverty. But I've enjoyed every minute of my life.
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Yep you just go ahead and laugh Jim but the lies and distortions from Conservatives continue to rage their ugly heads.
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What's next? A complaint filed against Soros?
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#4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:27 PM ESTHave at it Bill. Go for it. Oh wait your comment was just a derail.
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I heard Soros wasn't contributing to campaigns. He's disappointed with President Obama.
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What? Someone trying to buy an election... Why this is...is... Typical.
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#5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 PM ESTThese politician's are able to find-force-beg-borrow-steal millions for elections. Over and over on both sides for elections year after year. Just think, these people can find millions to support them and their cause, get elected or stay elected but for some reason can't seem to balance a budget. Imagine how much better of the economy and country would be in if these same people put 10% of their effort into their job as they do elections.
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ghost @ 5.4
but for some reason can't seem to balance a budget
Funny you should say that - Walker is being pursued by the hounds of the public unions precisely because he did find a way to balance the budget. Not just for now, but for the future.
Act 10 is a structural change. It actually puts the taxpayers back into the process of determining compensation and benefits for public employees. The process had gotten so skewed in favor of the WEAC union, who chose their own candidates for local school boards and then backed them with huge amounts of money, that the School Boards were voting on the pay of their masters. And AFSCME did the same with the Democrat State Senators and the Legislature.
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Unions no matter how vile they may be are controlled by humans. Walker is controlled by David Koch who deducts contributions from his taxes. He is an overlord. He does absolutely squat for his inherited money.
Do you think teachers, firefighters and police are paid too much for their work. Imagine fighting a fire, stopping a gun battle or having to try and control 20-40 kids five days a week.
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ghost
Do you know how Walker allegedly balanced the budget? He used federal funds given the state for another purpose. Those counting on the money got screwed.
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Pippo @ 5.7
If you are speaking of the foreclosure dollars from the feds, the state took only a small portion of the total to balance the state's upcoming budget. This will benefit a lot more people than sending most of the money to Milwaukee so that Mayor Barrett can use it to demolish forfeited homes.
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Jade
Do you have any problem with George Soros and how he uses his Billions to influence our politics ?
Or do you just point to the Koch Brothers because its both fashionable and follows your agenda!
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You don't read the whole thread otherwise you would know that I have cited a reference of George Soros' campaign contributions so far. It's not that much this time. He's just not into President Obama this time around. I'll keep my eyes open as time passes and will provide links.
Come on read this stuff and the articles and links.
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You don't read the whole thread otherwise you would know that I have cited a reference of George Soros' campaign contributions so far.
I read the thread ... You only referenced his personal donations..Not what he has done through organizations he controls...
Sadly it appears you will not address the issue I brought up... Soros working through proxies and surrogates...
Care to comment on Donations and activities of those organizations and the influence they excert on the election process?
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It's the filthy rich and corporate persons on both sides. They live in a very different world. They have the money to keep their machinations as secret as the Vatican.
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mymymy - interesting, thanks.
Pippo - no where in my rant, babble or post did I specify any 1 person, politician or political party. I think my post grew legs and assumed an identity. I was just commenting on how much money (million and millions) politicians and parties are able to raise to support their interest. I guess the point I was making is that, politicians, if so inclined and motivated could find the same will and support to balance budgets for the state and the nation. Given the state of our economy and the nation, the amount of money spent on elections is sickening. Companies, corporations, special interest groups, unions and individuals pour money into the election system to ensure that it is business as usual. I may be wrong but, doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is what insanity means.
I do have one question...How does spending by the Koch brothers prevent you from voting for whomever you please? George Soros doesn't prevent me from voting for whom I please.
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#6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:38 PM ESTMike, Again good point and thank you.
Sadly many voters are suckers for campaign ads and news programming. You seem to be one of the few who can stand up to all the @!$%#.
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George Soros doesn't prevent me from voting for whom I please.
but their influence does effect WHO you get to vote for. You still get to vote, but only for the ones that make it that far.
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Stump can you show where Soros has supported any one person unlike the Koches.
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You must realize if the money makes no difference in the outcome, why do they spend it? Over 90% of the politicians that spend the most are ellected.
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I propose what I call the Local Voter Only Act. This act would preclude any one from contributing to the campaign of a candidate except for the private individuals who live in that town, city, county, parish, district, or state. No pac money, associations, unions, businesses, agencies, comittees ,groups, parties, no one else. Why should some outside group interfere in who gets elected to represent me. I think they do have the rights to free speech, but they don't have the right to affect who gets elected when they don't live in whatever level of local,or state elections. Why? because they don't live here. And put a cap to contributions that mirror the mean income level for that area, not the avg.
There are plentiful ways in which a candidate can get out his or her message. So I lump the sierra club in with the koch bros. I lump teacher's unions in with union busting businesses. I lump the local car dealer hot shot in with the guys who live in Hawaii. JUst one flat maximum for everyone, everywhere, based on the level of governmental postions that are up for being filled. The farmers of Dunklin county Missouri should not have some city fellow from St. Louis, with lots of cash and a hardon for farmers coming inj and affecting the outcome of who that farmer's county commissioner should be. Monsanto shouldn't have a say in who gets elected for state rep, just because he promotes its monopolizing the seed industry. Donald trump shouldn't get to influence Phoenix's mayoral race just because he wants tax breaks to seize property in an eminent domain squabble for his hi-rise hotel or convention.
No, the only way to eliminate this abuse is to limit all business pertaining to an election, to the people who actually live in that area. They are still free to (in their own town) to express themselves.Just not where they don't live, not with money. You want to espress yourself and you're not in my congressional district, nothing is preventing you from writing to the papers and see if it's put in the editorial section. The Local Voter Only Act strips away all the influence of rich people's money, or business interest, or social wedge issues from preachers or bishops or teamsters or anybody who is not a private citizen in that voting place. IMHO
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#7 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:47 AM ESTI would vote for it!
I have always bristled when out of state groups stick their noses into local politics. Both sides do it to be sure, but these days it is out of control. There's little oversight, no way to follow the money. Voting is just a formality done to give the public its little cookie so they can go away feeling all special and content.
Before we can have a deficit under control, before we can get jobs on track, before we can focus on education - we need campaign finance reform. Without legitimate and impassioned representatives of the people our government will remain without merit or ability. We cannot achieve this with billions of dollars worth of election propaganda coming at us and shadow groups running things.
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I believe all elctions should be publicly funded at the local level. That would include Federal elections but publicly financed by the electorate. Any under the table funding would be severely punished.
Politicians have become professional money pigs. They make money running and make money selling favors.
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I believe all elctions should be publicly funded at the local level. That would include Federal elections but publicly financed by the electorate. Any under the table funding would be severely punished.
Politicians have become professional money pigs. They make money running and make money selling favors.
Ah WE AGREE !!!!
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Finally!!! There are always overlaps in the ven diagram of our diverse politics.
"Money Pigs," a PERFECT title for politicians.
From this point forward politicians title's is "Money Pigs."
But in SO MANY ways most of them money pig politicians are Money Pig Puppet THIEVES for you know who and I'm NOT referring to the 99 percent.
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#7 Good suggestion. In the meantime, take it court on a number of grounds.
Wisconsin’s Democratic Party needs to up the game against David H. Koch and his astroturf group, Americans for Prosperity. Most states are defined as self-sufficient bodies united together in one community for the defense of the rights of its citizens.
- David H. Koch is a resident of New York City, not Wisconsin
- Under the 14th amendment, Koch has breached the law, which guarantees residents equal protection
- While the Koch Klansman has an affinity with the John Birch Society that is HQ’d in Appleton/Grand Chute, the USA Patriot Act includes protections against “domestic terrorism.” Domestic terrorism is defined as:
... violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety civilians (non-combatants).
- The RICO Act(Racketeer Influenced & Corrupt Organizations) has a civil component. Koch and AFP could be charged with conspiracy, extortion, fraud
- David Koch has colluded a 501(C)3 organization to abridge the First Amendment rights of the citizens of Wisconsin. And he presents a clear and present danger by continuing criminal, civil and political anarchy by means of wire fraud(Internet banking).
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NC Slim,
David H. Koch is a resident of New York City, not Wisconsin
Under the 14th amendment, Koch has breached the law, which guarantees residents equal protection
While the Koch Klansman has an affinity with the John Birch Society that is HQ'd in Appleton/Grand Chute, the USA Patriot Act includes protections against "domestic terrorism." Domestic terrorism is defined as:
... violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety civilians (non-combatants).The RICO Act(Racketeer Influenced & Corrupt Organizations) has a civil component. Koch and AFP could be charged with conspiracy, extortion, fraud
David Koch has colluded a 501(C)3 organization to abridge the First Amendment rights of the citizens of Wisconsin. And he presents a clear and present danger by continuing criminal, civil and political anarchy by means of wire fraud(Internet banking).
GREAT thoughts !!
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No doubt the lawsuit was filed by WEAC and AFSCME who were ticked off that their effort at buying our elections was being outspent.
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#8 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:23 AM ESTBootstraps @ 8.3
Yes it is working.
Lucky you, Washington County. City of Milwaukee here. I am a stranger in a strange land:)
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well......you could be in Madison. The Newsvine of the Midwest.
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Boots @ 8.5
Ahh, you did make me laugh - a rather rare experience for conservatives on Newsvine:)
I sent you an FR - Wisconsinites need to huddle together here:)
- 1 vote
Yup, I cut and pasted a Progressive rag.
Dem/Unions blew their $pecial interest wad to erase my vote for Governor and now cry for game change. Just like the little, sore loser, douche that wanted to change home runs to outs, in the backyard pick up game.
State law permits anyone targeted for a recall to bring in unlimited cash until an election is officially called.
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#9 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:30 AM ESTWell what does George Soros have to say about this? OMG! Money in politics? OMG!
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#10 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:16 PM ESTAgain so far this year Soros has been a relatively inactive political donor. Source click here.
seasonsofchange the following is not directed at you.
Really folks you might read or scan the article and follow the vine's comments. It's tempting to make an offhand remark but too often it's been made before.
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What about donations from organizations and foundations controlled by Soros?
What about funds provided to organizations that are active against Republicans and their agenda?
Do you pretend that support by proxy is not still support...
Soros gives a Million dollars to Media Matters and Media Matters then attacks Fox and the Republicans... Sure Soros did nothing personally he uses others to do his bidding for him... Or do you deny the Tides Foundation, The Open Society Foundation and organizations such as those...
Jade-log
There is an extensive amount of data about Soros and how he uses organizations and Foundations... Have you turned a blind eye to the actions of this man just to attack the Koch Brothers? Is it because he supports you agenda and the Koch Brs do not?
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jade-log
You ever seen this ? Its a fun site ...interactive and you can plug in other names!
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All the plutocrats are @!$%# to me. Our system is so Byzantine that undoing the knot of corruption is something that only a god could do.
Maybe the Kochs and Soros are working on the same team for a long term goal. Neither of us knows whats going on in their world.
Maybe the Kochs and Soros are working on the same team for a long term goal. Neither of us knows whats going on in their world.
You could be more right than you might want to be...
You ever heard of the Fabian Society?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
Check the Fabian Window ... and its motto.."remould it nearer to the hearts desire" Notice the Red and Green figures the two sides ---shaping the world into what they DESIRE....
(wow what along address ....hahahaha but its real)
Scull and Bones ... John Kerry and G.W. Bush
Those type organization bring together the strangest of bedfellows ...For a common goal!
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Thanks for the book to read...
Interesting reading but as the author noted later in the piece not a lot to go on... A group that seems mostly politic with some influence but not a money driven organization, more like a gentleman's club of politic heavy weights..
But an organization that seems to be against the One- World Government types...
So the Opposite of the Fabiens and the Soros types.
But thanks for a good read and I will do more research on them ...
jade-log
Neither of us knows whats going on in their world.
What we do KNOW is very, VERY LARGE AMOUNTS of CASH is channelled to their bank accounts. Such accounts did NOT poof into existence already spilling over.
Where is that cash channeled FROM?
Who arranged that money to be channeled to "their" accounts?
Did Money Pig politicians suited with puppet strings by big money puppeteers arrange for that one-way money path through crafted legislation and laws passed by Money Pig Puppeteers steer the American peoples money out of their pockets and into the hands of conspiritors using that same money to buy government to be able to shrink government and reign terror over the American people after they take over the government they shrunk?
Hmmm .......
Then you have dumb-ass enablers spoofed into supporting this?
Hmmm .......
Reporters on the phone call, however, voiced various notes of skepticism about whether this would lead to an investigation, noting the recent proliferation of 501(c)(3) organizations that have become active voices in political discourse. But Tate stood his ground.
Like Media Matters for America? This Dem needs to back off or this issue might go to places darker then he could ever imagine like the Chicago Obama re-election team, the White House and MSNBC who all have been caught with their corrupt paws in the 501 (c)(3) MMfA cookie jar.
#11 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:13 PM ESTWhat do you think the reporters on the phone in article were referring to?
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This is a new low in American politics. Never have we had such a flow of money to sway the elections the way the Billionairs want them to be. How can they expect anyone to respect them with so much injustice they cause with all the dollars. What do they hope to accomplish, other than owning the USA and calling all the shots for the rest of us. Absolute power corrupts.
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#15 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:03 PM ESTThis is honestly the most important election in our lifetimes. No matter what side you're on.
This is honestly the most important election in our lifetimes. No matter what side you're on.
Scratches Head .....Second time today we agree .... ?????
Time to check on that Mayan Calender thing again ...LoL
Well obviously we see the same thing from different positions. It scares the hell out of me.
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